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Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

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Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Angelo Biondi on Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:26 pm

Due to the recent login troubles connecting Second Inventory in Open Life, I want to make some clarifications:

  • Some days ago Sakai, the owner and founder of OL has restricted the access into OL for any client/viewer except their own client (developed by Kirstenlee Cinquetti). This change has blocked the login also for Second Inventory together with the other popular clients like the LL viewer, Hippo viewer, etc.
  • As far as I’ve understood reading the first announcement on their forum, this was a temporary restriction until they won’t fix some stability problems. The decision was not taken against SI but it was just a consequential effect.
  • After a couple of days since this break, I’ve spoken with Kirstenlee via Skype and he asked me some SI details, particularly the login parameters in order to add SI to the client allowed list. He said me that this would have been done within 24 hours.
  • At the moment, after some days, the situation is still the same, SI was not added to the allowed client. I tried to contact Sakai inworld (both SL and OL) but I had no luck. I’ve read again their forum and it seems that they are waiting that we fix some SI scripts upload problems but honestly, we didn’t talk about that with Kirstenlee, so atm, we are not fixing anything…
  • The main problem seems to be the script upload process because the scripts are uploaded by SI in ‘Running’ state and so, if they include some not yet supported instructions, they can crash the simulator. Actually SI doesn't upload scripts in running state. Let me give you some tech explanations about the Scripts upload process:
    • Second Inventory, by default (unless the user doesn’t check the related option) DOESN’T upload scripts in ‘Running’ state. According with the LL UpdateScriptAgentInventory CAP specification, SI sets the parameter 'is_script_running' to false, consequentially, unless the Opensim UpdateScriptAgentInventory implementation is different, they shouldn’t be in Running state.
    • Despite to the huge Opensim’s developers efforts, the Opensim Scripts implementation is not yet completed and it cannot considered fully reliable. Scripts can cause crashes even if, with the SL viewer, you drag scripts from the inventory to the Object task.

Conclusions:
  • We are still available to any cooperation with the Openlife staff or with Sakai in order to help them to add SI to their allowed clients.
  • I’ll give a look to the Opensim code in order to check if it is LL compliant or if it is different.
  • Despite to our satisfaction to include OL in our grid list, if this situation will not be solved in short time, we’ll be forced to remove OL from the supported grids by SI due to the numerous support requests from our customers.
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Devi on Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:50 pm

I've discussed this issue with Sakai of OL and have some good news to report: please don't do anything precipitate! OL are moving on but need to consult with others as follows:
'the 3DX developer team will meet on this issue on Thursday next week to discuss second inventory and
access.(currently it is Chinese new year so these guys have a holiday this
week and I am in the US for meetings for 3DX Openlife).'
Thats from Sakai... so they _are_ working on it and we should be up and running SI into OL shortly1
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Angelo Biondi on Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:56 pm

Thanks for the update Devi, it's a good new and I renew my cooperation availability.
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Freyja Bailey on Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:50 am

Sakai Openlife Posted:02/05/2009 09:14 AM
Subject: Second Inventory Temporary Access Fri 13th FEB

As per a previous post the 3rd party program Second Inventory was denied access whilst we collect data and feedback from regions as part of our effort to have a clean set of region data for bug fixing and improvement fixes.

After next weeks scheduled Thursday update, Second Inventory Access will be possible through to Friday Evening. This will provide a test window for data collection and feedback from the Openlife 'live' Grid over a 24+ period.

We would like to hear from you via the contact us pages of any unusual experiences during this period. Access will be closed to this 3rd party program again just during the weekend with another test window to be anounced the following week.

We appreciate any information that might be useful about your experience during this test window period.
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Freyja Bailey on Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:50 pm

Sakai, founder of Open Lif, wrote today in the OL-forum:

Subject: RE: whats the latest word on Second Inventory.

Sakai Openlife: I think we have enough data collection from that last test, we're now working on some requests to give to the Second Inventory creators.
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Angelo Biondi on Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:51 pm

Thank you Freyja for the update, I've been following that topic too and I've read it.

Like I said before, we are ready to cooperate so when we'll get those feedbacks we'll do our best to solve any possible problem.
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Angelo Biondi on Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:36 pm

Finally Sakai and me had a chance to talk, both our teams will share their knowledge in order to improve the reliability between SI and OL.

Read more http://openlifegrid.com/Blog/tabid/330/ ... fault.aspx
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby apellesluna on Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:42 pm

Is there any new info on when Second Inventory will be up and running on Openlife?
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Vespona Piaggio on Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:46 pm

I guess since the 1.2.0.9 will be out
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Re: Second Inventory and Opensim [2009 Jan 30]

Postby Freyja Bailey on Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:37 pm

Does anyone have any idea:
-when the 1.2.0.9 shall be out?
-if the new version can be used to connect Open Life?
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